As a result of this, I developed a “super hero” complex and have tried “saving” many people (tried to tutor a friend of mine who was learning 7th grade level math… in 11th grade!, taught my ex boyfriend how to read an analog clock because he missed that lesson in elementary school and no one taught him how, etc. From those details all … His teachers often tell me that he is very gifted. As a kid my parents and teachers had no clue how to handle someone like me, so they had doctors put me on everything under the sun for all kinds of crap diagnoses, making my childhood far more miserable than it should have been. As far as my previous IQ result is concerned [which I’m actually still not sure of. It’s basically like having a dozen death metal drummers in my head, hammering hell out of their sets, all at once, giving me a headache. My freshman year of high school, I was tutoring 10th, 11th, and 12th graders in things that I had not taken yet. One of your posts brought a great smile to my face, the driving post where you said LLI either makes you so aware that it makes you an awkward nervous, or a great driver. so I also used to work in retail, in a clothes shop – the teaching was the mental stimulus and physically ‘relaxing’ : I prefer to function in ‘busy’ environments… and the shop was physically stimulating and mentally ‘relaxing’ in the sense that I spent the entire time on autopilot for doing things, but in my head I was reordering the shop for better sales and efficiency and testing out different was to be faster unpacking the boxes…. looking back at my childhood, i felt dumb. I don’t think so. I’m a very musical individual. I don’t know if one could say that they HAVE LLI, only that they display these qualities/symptoms. The noise of water running through the pipes, or the dishwasher, disturbs me. When you read is it hard for you to concentrate on the text line you are reading since there are so many other words around it and the brain is trying to process every word on the page? Any thoughts? It seems that –>in your mind<— there are but two accepted definitions of the term "genius", but we must have context for this to be true. It’s a force I feel flowing inside my body. I don’t really like to assume because I don’t like to be disappointed. By that I mean I consider all possible outcomes of a scenario and my mind won’t rest until I have covered every scenario and played it out mentally. The world of quantum physics is also exploring further into the realms of quantifying feelings and emotions etc that we cannot currently use technology to identify and we will see more technology available as time goes by that does this. “Your dream job doesn’t exist – you have to create it.” If you lived here I would know exactly which group would be of help to you…it is a group of people who own their own small businesses, and they get together to discuss what people need and to exchange business cards, and they get online to promote everyone’s business… I do not perceive you as arrogant or delusional, but then all I have seen of you is this one post. :/. hey sam. But everyone has latent inhibition to control the constant stream of incoming information. It was a long time ago since I’ve taken an IQ test, and back then I was younger and didn’t care that much. N.B. As soon as I have to go somewhere boring and I don’t have my laptop and internet and my tweak tools I start losing it. (not to say I haven’t been wrong because I have but my observations have still made people think twice). To try and focus whenever I’m playing games I purchased an expensive pair of noise cancelling headphones, however even with them on, I can hear the faintest sounds from around me, and even if the sound is so minute there could be a million possibilities, I immediately deduce what it is and what it came from and in my head it becomes plain as day. I have never studied for a test, yet I’ve always received A’s and B’s throughout my schooling. I prolly got it wrong even. As a result, my sister and I went through occupational therapy for some time until being touched was a manageable stimulus. It’s certainly possible that they’re connected, since working memory and LLI are both associated with dopamine levels. It is difficult to write/type/speak quickly enough to articulate ideas and the breadth of the permutations involved. Fuck and the thread is fucked. Pls dont give me simply a FACT, i am asking u the REASON, FACT n REASON are not the same bla bla bla” (i hope u get me) I too recently finished watching prison break and I was fascinated with Micheal Scofield as a character because of the way he was able to creatively and effectively get himself out of a bind. Haha) What you need is guidance from other gifted individuals. Correct, everyone has latent inhibition, but the average person has a mid to high level. Within the maelstrom of information there exists a place of calm and quietude. Like many here, Prison Break sparked my interest on the issue, however it was long before it that I suspected there was something ‘different’ about me. The casuality goes both ways here. ), and I think that because of neuroplasticity these experiences make physical changes in our brains. Where should I take him to know more, phsycologist? I can answer problems but it takes tremendous effort and a longer time to do so, probably influenced by my math anxiety as well. Everything I’ve started are all in fragments, at most 43%. Or Sam? 2. How did you find out that you had LLI? 4 years ago, I spiralled into a meltdown after a rude awakening which opened up my pendoras box. It seems one needs a certain degree of analytical ability to bring out genius level insights/innovations/creations , but having just incredibly high analytics doesn't cut it, from my point of view. I do not have the world’s best vocabulary but I am considered to have an above average vocabulary by other people (to my surprise at times). It is hardly ON/OFF condition between those variables. If I had been in class, then I retained most if not all of what was taught in the classroom and was able to do extremely well on the tests with no additional study time. I’ve always felt alone except with my wife because I think she has it as well she was the only one that ever understood me and is probably the reason we’ve always been so close. with how he grew up. What context of creativity is being described here? intelligence and high creativity, which I believe has helped me tremendously to cope with my LLI. I explore every factor of every outcome of my decisions so thoroughly that I find negative scenarios arising from all or nearly all possible choices. Maybe that should be added up there, because for the person who really has LLI they get a shit ton of relief when they learn about this condition. For some people the influx is just too much, and medication may be needed. I’m 21 and I’m somewhat the opposite from you when it comes to the IQ, not saying I’m stupid, but I’m far from being a genius. You’ll want to talk to your doctor about medication options, though whatever you do don’t let them treat you with ADHD stimulants! I see things people don’t. Also, because I have this need to analyze everything, very rarely something can actually suprise me, make me laugh, cry, etc. I mean, I’m all for self examination, and I think we should all do more of that, but if you’re trying to identify your own issues, and you just aren’t making headway, then seeking outside help is probably a wise choice…just get a 2nd and maybe a 3rd opinion for any diagnosis before you go the medication route. I go full speed ahead and learn that stuff until something else catches my attention. As far as I could remember, the result was that I didn’t have a very high one or I had an average to say the least. if u can answer me back i would really appreciate it thanks so much in advance. I don’t recommend trying opiates if you have LLI because it is extremely addictive to be able to regulate your over processing. All (?) You’re either born with it or you don’t have it. Noisy neighbors can cause serious stress. i had a enghish teacher who taught me to “see more”. But when I do have time, I can’t focus on anything, and have no will to do anything. I have been misdiagnosed more times than I can remember. I do not know if that is the same as what is explained above but I really think I might have this. I have explored my personality, situation, and difficulties intensely and critically thought about my situation very carefully. Girls say they JUST can’t date me because of some of the bullet points in the cons list. I have this thing where I feel that all the speech and sounds around me become really slow and i feel as though i want things to just speed up. I read any/every psychological, philosophical, theological, religious and spiritual material which had any remote relevance to what i was experiencing. Cognitive behavioral therapy is too easily overlooked in favor of medication, and I personally don’t believe in altering the brain with foreign chemicals. I never had given this much thought until I came across LLI and read this and other articles and it suddenly hit me. Do most doctors know about the condition? It is said that such a low amount of people have it yet it isn’t a illness. I rarely have time to answer questions on here, but wanted to jump on and answer yours. I love Poe because he can take scary things and get into the psyche behind it. There are pros and cons to having LLI, as you will soon see: So that is that, a nice summary of what it means to have LLI. I would complete my test nonetheless and pass it but I would be annoyed that had I been able to put all my thought into my test and not share it with the chirping bird and the loose screw on my desk I would turn my 75 into a 90 or better. I know sam is extremely busy with projects and other things in his life so please feel free to contact myself and some others either at the website Sam has linked in at the top, or in the facebook LLI awareness group (for those of you who pay enough attention to detail to realise that Sam has said he’s too busy to reply from now on anyway). Also, in keeping with the "no correlation between genius and IQ over ~120" bit, I think this is basically showing that creativity (and character, imo, in most circumstances) is much more important than IQ 140-180. After this change, it was….pretty much an endless stream of perspective shifts. hey sam just wondering if you can ever get the disorder on purpose? No no, not at all! This of course, tends to lead to more and more stress on low LI – low IQ individuals; stress which eventually leads to mental disorder. I draw with graphite and with photrealistic quality. I have also secretly developed theories in biology , physics and the origin of life. I’ve been picked on by my teachers many times because of how much I “daydream”. One day I sorted through the diagnosis papers and a few things struck me as odd: both of the psychologists who conducted tests on me had scored me as having a slightly lower than average IQ test, although suspected my IQ is significantly higher than what I had scored (suspected my IQ to actually be in the above average range). However, later I may be working on the same task and I can see with my own eyes what’s going on. I needed medication, but it has been reduced, and I think it is because I also have the talk therapy…but with LLI, I think there are many of those symptoms that I would like to keep! Firstly apologies for the length of this post! I’m only saying this because I want to make sure people have all the extra detail from a different patient. When I ask you if it is hard to study or read, I am asking if it is hard to block out all the other distractions such as talking, other people eating, or other noises. It is so hard to get off this type of drug so please don’t get any ideas from this post because I am suffering more from the drug use than I ever did from LLI. They notice an awful lot more. I test as ENTP on the MBTI, and am an EXCELLENT driver who processes EVERYTHING all at once. While typing on the computer, hearing diminishes, smell diminishes – the awareness is narrowed. When younger I was given a test and I scored eseptionally high for what was considered a working IQ. I told him it was in my head…. I take everything in and I guess I think differently to most people and always see different ways to do things. 5. Yeah I know hahaha but you guys are freaks too . is there any help? Mike, whether or not I had to study for a test was entirely dependent on whether or not I had attended class. And gave me an exact short CIVILIZED explanation for what I am having, which I could use to explain to other people about me in much more factual manner. This blog has been extremely interesting to read as have all the comments. You see alternatives. Again, I thank you for the reply. Conventions and traditions have no significance. When I take him to the doctor with a sore throat he explains it to the doctor so different that it makes it difficult for us to understand. I haven’t had him take an IQ test yet, but I have never had to help him study and he is an A student. In some rare cases, the ability to filter incoming data is decreased. http://www.dyspraxiafoundation.org.uk/dyspraxia-adults/. I also find myself looking at the simplest things in great detail, when I see someone, I see the color / fabric of each piece of clothing, I straight away notice any stains or marks, I can easily spot gaps in make-up or hair styles. I’m actually researching for a screenplay that I’m writing and this artical helped a bunch! I’m posting on this forum for anonymity. Latent Inhibition is the mind's subconscious ability to discount sensory data as irrelevant, based on prior experience, to prevent ongoing overload. My memory is too vivid. Klonipin has been the only relief I have had….apparently I clench my teeth or something… despite these headaches I was able to win state in doubles tennis using mostly mental tactics, though I am physically gifted in virtually anything I try. I also have a long history of hypersensitivity in my hearing (made quite a few trips to the doctor as a child due to this [and them finding nothing medically wrong with me, not even once] , which I still experience to this day. Robert, since I’m not a psychologist myself, I would recommend that you talk to one. These are just some of the things I find I’ve been doing for as long as I can remember. They might be able to do some fMRI testing to measure brain activity with different types and levels of stimuli, but that testing isn’t cheap, even with insurance coverage. Now, I have difficulty to start to think or focus on something intensely for more than a minute. Le modèle d'apprentissage développé par la psychologie expérimentale associe un stimuluset une conséquence qui lui est associée. I just thought I had attention span issues… can go from 3 seconds if I’m bored to holy crap! But if you do, I hope you may throw me an email…I need someone to talk to about this and get my life straightened out before I destroy what may be a great gift…. What you describe though certainly indicates the possibility. Thus 1 in 1000 have a genius level IQ. However I have a variety of problems, both mental and physical, like anxiety and fatigue. I have this (what I call bad) habit of taking something that especially interests or concerns me to the nth degree of possibility. At the age of nineteen, I became very reclusive, believing that I possessed a character flaw that prevented people from liking me. I agree though, the label has no real value (beyond bragging rights/vanity). I even had a 10 minute conversation with a friend of mine about this and why we believe that fluorescent lighting may actually be the reason why a lot of children are unable to concentrate in classrooms and experience impatience, how it is a way for light bulb companies to mimick the sunlight (minus its beneficial effects), etc. you DON’T do that too? I too, loved being home for my children, but I needed desperately to give my mind something to “chew” on throughout the mundane tasks. According to my observations, one can be both ADD and LLI. and my career!) In your post you mentioned that there is no “inner voice”. I was reading what you posted, and I think my son has this but I am not sure. No idea for sure though. If not enough is going on, I get super bored super fast. I am extremely creative, more than anyone i have ever met. swear to god, he was identical… size and shape and IQ….). When I did study, I’d flip through pages scanning 200 words per minute looking for key words to help me find my answer. XD So what the solution? LLI varies in intensity from person to person, and I don’t think I have an extreme case. I do appreciate paintings, especially abstract, and their details, though. I personally have come into contact with people over and over again who were diagnosed with a form of autism or a mental illness at some point (usually at a younger age) who have later had their diagnosis proven incorrect, whilst still sharing clearly identifiable and unique traits to other people who were also, strangely enough, misdiagnosed with the same illnesses for similar reasons. Also, many people seem to hit the above X IQ mark. I’ve had a month completely clean except methadone as of now and I feel equipped better to succeed now that I am armed with the information I have about LLI. Since taking the medication, I’ve had to start on anti-depressants. noisy. Luckily I have a genius-level IQ, and as far as I know I’m not insane . i am sorry for this long comment. Anyways, I scored all over the charts on IQ tests, ranging from high gifted, so sub par depending on the subsection. I’ll know who just sat down/left, listening to a conversation in earshot etc even the smell of someones lunch it’s a kind of constant stream. I was in a hyper anxious-depressive way which suggests I ought not to have done any soul searching but felt absolutely compelled to get at the root of whatever triggered me needing to do so. I find that the emotional imbalance is somewhat overbearing when living with this condition. Without any conscious effort, your mind is in possession of a broader intake of information. with regards to work, I used to teach English as another language to foreign students and the one manager I got on fine with and was ok with my ‘unique’ way of doing things… we get an old fogey bloke replaced him, and didn’t ‘get’ how I could teach without a lesson plan in front of me…. I remember not doing any home work for 5 years lol but my teachers here in NC always had to pass me because I would ace all of my end of grade Test. I have always tried to explain the ‘brain overload’ or the ‘busy brain’ that I feel to people, but they don’t seem to get it… I found an example, you know in Jurassic park when they explain the bit about the DNA and the little bits of DNA are rushing past each other? How many females with LLI do you know of? Filtering out the variables and honing your options to something workable can be very difficult. Getting off ADHD and anti-depressant medication in your circumstance sounds like it might make life much better for you (my personal opinion, talk to a doctor before you actually do this). Always ‘review’ n ‘reopen’ previous issues n brought in newly found POV, like “if it was A, then why is it contradicts with C which confirms D? Because I have learned so much, people simply conclude that I became much smarter and I am asocial because ‘I am too smart for my own good’—this is not the case. Look at the statements I just wrote; those are actually overflowing info. I often felt however I never did as well as I could do academically. I can make a tool out of virtually anything, using scissors as a screwdriver, or a key as a crude knife. This can be especially difficult in meetings where often one subject is being discussed and I’ve already moved on in my mind. I find it rather hard to concentrate in classroom lectures, due to being unable to ignore the humming of the lights, the lights flickering ever so slightly, someone tapping their pen, the sound of people writing notes with their pencils, the clothes the teacher is wearing, how their tone of voice changes when they are emphasizing certain points, the teacher and students talking in the rooms neighboring, someone walking down the other side of the long hallway with obnoxiously loud boots, etc. This lack of awareness tends to be involuntary, meaning the brain automatically carries out the process. Whether you have ADHD or LLI, non-stimulant medication should help. If you get no relief from learning about LLI then you probably don’t have it. mainly from other people’s observations….. but this is feeling remarkably similar to how my brain works…. both? The faculty would have meetings at the end of the year, and each time concluded that my absences must be excused, because I was too damned smart and still aced most of the material, so doing this would be much more of a detriment than benefit. However, LLI varies in intensity. Everything offers a lesson. Those feelings of knowing you’re different but not understanding how to explain or really trust it. I can’t tell whether or not adderall helps or not. I see a shelf of books (too much information to process) or sites Very strange indeed! Have you looked into the old Harvard study where they test students by adding noises such as “aaah, eeeee, ooooo” etc to the sound of white noise and then monitor which of those students notices certains patterns etc? It happens especially when people are trying to teach me things aurally. (Because my parents will think that I am only focusing on the lyrics to the music instead of my books), I almost never had to study for tests, but it’s actually easy for me to read a book. Please just let me know what you think. IQ is really just a measure of processing and problem solving ability, not of whether or not you actually put that ability to use. I tend to be very aware of my surroundings for example in a restaurant I’ll hear almost everything at once. To sum up, my questions are just basically: In your case, medication may well be a wise option, but that is a conversation for someone with a medical degree and the legal ability to diagnose things . Through psychological testing, the researchers showed that creative individuals are much more likely to have low levels of latent inhibition. I noticed you posted a reply not long ago, just thought I’d say i hope all your projects etc are all going well! of the student-council of my county and also the founder of the : philosophy, theater and modern poetry societies and was the main critic ( always first opinion) in the literature formal society of our college . People often say I am a little intense. Would we all be inept, socially, or would it redefine what it means to be normal? Which is why I “randomly” changed my career choice from engineer to paramedic at the age of 9. Oversensitive attention even to small things. If I don’t have music going, it is impossible to block out distractions. Generally speaking, I always tell people that you can learn from anyone, anywhere you go, from everything you see, hear, look at, etc. Projects are going well, busy busy If you have questions or thoughts you’re free to email them, I just can’t promise to respond quickly , Hi y’all, I think I have this condition but that’s beside the point of my post. I just want to know if some expertises could help me diagnose it and gave me some treatment advice. I’ve always caught a lot of shit for starting at point A, skipping over the next dozen points that most people insist on wasting their time on, and jumping to point X. Having patience to deal with liars and leeches, everywhere. However, I’ve learned to multitask quite well, and I can effectively split my focus and still retain what’s going on from multiple sources (I can remember what I’m reading, what happened on the TV in the background, and what was said in a conversation nearby, all going on at the same time). They took note of the fact that I was easily distracted by various things during the tests and that I had refused to cooperate with them at times (probably a big reason why I was careless during most of the testing, since I “knew” what they were doing which angered me). know how you feel mate the creativity just becomes a mess,it reaches a point you can no longer prioritize and takes over life completely,and would cost millions to impliment…if you havent allready start small and do one thing well then you can look at finding help to get ideas out there as it states up top you should visit http://www.lowlatentinhibition.org/ there are articles on creativity also you might like to visit the facebook page https://www.facebook.com/groups/151833815112/ you and others reading will be freaked out by how simalar everyone is……as for toning it down i don’t know but most peoples lifes get a whole lot eaiser when the join the groups or forums and realise other pople stuggle with exacally the same problems and outlooks…..Clasical or theme music can help a bit, picturing the notes being played as colors or shapes like wmp visulisations can be relaxing. So there’s a range of latent inhibition, and there’s a range of processing speed (and of course both of these differing in different sensory and cognitive areas). Everyone has different levels of latent inhibition. I used to tell my friends I couldn’t find someone ugly. Besides that, it’s just projects, like aquaponics, and recently …cloud computing protocols for wireless devices. Fully agreed, having a high IQ without the ability to creatively use it is such a tragedy . I like learning and once I get going I don’t want to stop but starting to do this and getting to it is the problem because though I’m fine at school without studying I want to just improve in all areas that interest me but this emptiness, depression and laziness prevent me from doing so and then by not doing things this boredom washes over me and I just wander in thought stuck as time constantly passes. the further the time passes the better i remember what i learned … if i study smt today the next day i would not remember it as well as i will 1 week after…. I have LLI really bad and have to take meds to sleep, keep emotions stable and to not loose my sanity which even with an IQ of 160+ is hard to keep. o I unknowingly, but consistently, correlate a plethora of information to seemingly unrelated concepts or experiences. I self-diagnosed myself with LLI, and my mother agrees, though she is just a family practitioner; no psychologist or psychiatrist I have seen has even heard of LLI.

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